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How to Be an (Educated) Optimist: Ivan Lo on the Enduring Value of Gold and Silver



-- Posted Friday, 24 May 2013 | | Disqus

Do you follow your own advice? Ivan Lo, editor and founder of Equedia.com and The Equedia Weekly Letter, does. Lo doesn't just follow companies in the gold and silver space, he actually paused this interview with The Gold Report to receive a shipment of silver bars. Following the notion that "knowledge is power," Lo also explains the philosophies that guide his publications, the reasons why educated investors have nothing to fear and why some companies remain good bets in the out-of-favor mining sector.

 

The Gold ReportSome recent headlines from The Equedia Weekly Letter include "A Scary Prediction," "Prepare for a Crisis," "A Nuclear Threat" and "A Shockwave Is Coming." Should investors be fearful, or does fear help sell your newsletter?

 

Ivan Lo: Fear helps sell the newsletter but not necessarily in the way you've worded it. Where there's fear and concern people go looking for answers, and we try to provide them. There's a lot of fear and concern right now—war with Syria in western Asia, nuclear threats from Korea, tensions between Japan and China, tension with China invading India's territory. These situations affect our safety and our financial well-being.

 

I think investors should be educated. If people are educated they are more prepared and don't feel the need to be fearful. Too many people in North America live inside of a small little box and have no idea what's going on around them, let alone in the world.

 

TGR: In a recent newsletter you wrote, "When you consider that we're in the middle of a currency crisis and a currency war, gold really is your only last form of liquid protectant." What would you say to the doubters who believe that money printing is already built into the gold price?

 

IL: A very fine line needs to be drawn between gold as a safe haven and gold as an investment. Stocks and real estate are investments. Gold is a currency that's held as value; it has had real value since the beginning of time. It doesn't suffer from inflation. There is a downside to gold, which may be what the doubters are talking about: It doesn't generate interest.

 

People get it wrong when they talk about gold as an inflation hedge and that they don't want it because the inflation numbers aren't there. The price of gold is less affected by the rate of inflation and more by the level of real interest rates. The real interest rates drive the appeal of holding gold relative to other currencies. In the end, I'm not telling my readers to go and buy gold to make money. I say you own gold so you won't lose money. Don't trade it. Own it.

 

TGR: But that doesn't mean gold equities will necessarily perform. Make the case for gold equities.

 

IL: Some incredible deals are out there if you know what to look for. People should start looking at gold plays as more of a real estate–style investment, where the idea is to get your hands on the rarest real estate project at the lowest possible price.

 

Natural Resource Holdings conducted a study last year and identified about 439 gold deposits in the world with over a million ounces. That's not a lot. Of that 439, about 189 are already producing mines. That leaves us with about 250 undeveloped deposits of over a million ounces. Consider that the majority of them are uneconomic, and you're left with 100 at the most. Right now, economic gold projects are not only ultra rare but cheap. Rare is good, but cheap is even better. That's my case for select gold equities.

 

TGR: What are some select gold equities at the production stage?

 

IL: Timmins Gold Corp. (TMM:TSX; TGD:NYSE.MKT) is a favorite. The company continues to increase revenues, cut costs and expand its mine life with funds paid from production. It just had another record-breaking quarter. Its profit from operations grew 40%; earnings are up 155%; cash flow is up 50% or 51%, and it sold 30% to 35% more gold than it did last year. This is all at a cash cost per ounce on a byproduct basis of $703. That's an all-in cost. Even if prices fall to $1,000/ounce ($1,000/oz), Timmins is still making money. In the gold space that's rare.

 

TGR: Have investors missed the boat on that stock, or is it still undervalued?

 

IL: It's still undervalued compared to its peers, such as Argonaut Gold Inc. (AR:TSX). Timmins isn't even close to being fairly valued. Some of the analysts have price targets double where Timmins is currently trading.

 

TGR: Do you think Timmins will use its cash flow to purchase other assets, or will it stick to its knitting?

 

IL: That's a tough discussion to have. If Timmins announced it was going to acquire other properties, people will start hammering the market expecting something to happen. If it doesn't happen, they'll penalize Timmins for it. I don't see these gold equities moving anywhere in the near future, so Timmins has time on its side.

 

TGR: Could you share some of your readers' success stories from the The Equedia Weekly Letter?

 

IL: I would say that all companies I mentioned are success stories. On a trading note, when everybody was screaming doom and gloom last year, we predicted that the S&P 500 would go past 1,500 and the Dow would go past 14,000. We said to buy in late 2008, when everyone was telling people to sell. We told our readers that Japanese stocks would hit an all-time high while the yen would fall, and we told our readers how to benefit from that with exchange-traded funds. We're very fortunate to have had success when everybody else has failed.

 

TGR: The S&P 500 is past 1,600 now, and the Dow Jones is above 15,000. Should investors approach equities with caution given those levels?

 

IL: I am extremely cautious at these levels, but I do think the market has room to climb, especially given all the liquidity injections and the record amount of money sitting on the sidelines. Interest rates keep dropping, which leads to lower worldwide bond yields, which in turn should change how investors value equities relative to the fixed income market. Long-term bond yields can't keep up with inflation and are losing value. Fixed-income investors have to eventually rebalance their asset mix toward equities just to maintain their current allocation.

 

I tweeted last week—I just started using Twitter because a lot of my subscribers asked for it—that global yields on $20 trillion worth of government securities now yield even less than 1%. By incentivizing these fund flows into the equity market, stocks are going to rise. This isn't a fundamental market. It's one filled with euphoria. Just remember that the bigger they are, the harder they fall.

 

TGR: That's a good cliché right now. How does an investor focus on the positive when there's so much negative news?

 

IL: I'll keep this short. There's always a positive if you know and prepare for the negative.

 

Ivan Lo is the editor and founder of Equedia.com and The Equedia Weekly Letter, an online publication focused on investing in mining and resource stocks. With over 65,000 subscribers of high net worth investors, brokers, analysts and fund managers, The Equedia Weekly Letter has become one of Canada's most trusted investment newsletters, providing information on stocks that have earned returns of over 100%. As a result of his performance, Lo now works closely with brokers, money managers and industry reporters to bring them new ideas and insights on the market.

 

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DISCLOSURE: 
1) Brian Sylvester conducted this interview for The Gold Report and provides services to The Gold Report as an independent contractor. He or his family own shares of the following companies mentioned in this interview: None.
2) The following companies mentioned in the interview are sponsors of The Gold Report: Timmins Gold Corp., Argonaut Gold Inc., MAG Silver Corp., Balmoral Resources Ltd. and Detour Gold Corp. Streetwise Reports does not accept stock in exchange for its services or as sponsorship payment.
3) Ivan Lo: I or my family own shares of the following companies mentioned in this interview: MAG Silver Corp., Balmoral Resources Ltd., Corvus Gold Inc. and Timmins Gold Corp. I personally am or my family is paid by the following companies mentioned in this interview: MAG Silver Corp., Balmoral Resources Ltd., Corvus Gold Inc. and Timmins Gold Corp. My company has a financial relationship with the following companies mentioned in this interview: MAG Silver Corp., Balmoral Resources Ltd., Corvus Gold Inc. and Timmins Gold Corp. I was not paid by Streetwise Reports for participating in this interview. Comments and opinions expressed are my own comments and opinions. I had the opportunity to review the interview for accuracy as of the date of the interview and am responsible for the content of the interview. 
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