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-- Posted Thursday, 1 February 2007 | Digg This ArticleDigg It! | Source: GoldSeek.com

[peterspina] 9:56 am: Welcome to GoldSeek.com Chat with Rick Ackerman. The chat session will begin shortly, Noon eastern.

 

During the first part of the chat session, Rick will be answering pre-submitted questions. During the second part, Rick will be answering questions from you.

 

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[RickAckerman] 10:01 am: Thank you all for joining me today at GoldSeek.com – and thank you, Peter Spina, for hosting this event. Today’s Q&A session is the second at GoldSeek, and Peter and I plan to make it a regular event to be held every other week.


[RickAckerman] 10:01 am: If you enjoy this Q&A session and find it useful, I hope you’ll consider joining the all-day-long chat room at Rick’s Picks as a paid subscriber.


[RickAckerman] 10:01 am: For precious metal traders and investors in particular, I doubt that you can find a better place to hang out during market hours. There are not only some certified bullion experts in the room most of the time, there are also some day traders who have mastered the rudiments of my Hidden Pivot system.

[RickAckerman] 10:02 am: Here is a link you can use to access my best-ever subscription offer, which comes with a free pima-cotton polo shirt with the Rick’s Picks logo, or a conversation-starting Rick’s Picks baseball cap:


[RickAckerman] 10:02 am: http://www.rickackerman.com/subscribe_offers.php


[RickAckerman] 10:02 am: I’ll send everyone who registered for this session a copy of the link later today, but by using the one above, you can gain access to the Rick’s Picks chat room during market hours today.


[RickAckerman] 10:03 am: An now to your questions…


[RickAckerman] 10:03 am: From Jack G, a question about FDR’s raid on America’s safe deposit boxes: “After FDR & the Supreme Court upheld the confiscation of gold from the American public, why in the world did they ever allow it to be legal again?”


[RickAckerman] 10:03 am: Answer: Even among governments, gold falls in and out of favor. When Roosevelt was inaugurated in 1933, one of his first acts was to issue Executive Order 6102, which eliminated gold as money with one stroke of the pen. This made it possible for the government to contemplate the debasement of U.S. currency on a scale hitherto unimagined. Moreover, by confiscating all privately held gold for $20.67 an ounce, the president was able to rebuild official inventories at a 40% discount to the $35 price he would later announce as the “official” rate.

[RickAckerman] 10:03 am: The edict was tightened in 1961, when Americans were forbidden from owning gold overseas as well as at home. But thirteen years later, in 1974, it was lifted and Americans were once again allowed to hold gold in a form other than jewelry.

[RickAckerman] 10:04 am: Not surprisingly, this ushered in a period when official selling of gold would reach torrential levels, including a sale by the IMF of 25 million troy ounces at public auction.


[RickAckerman] 10:04 am: Today Americans are “allowed” to own gold bullion because this doesn’t conflict with or in any way hinder the goal of debasing the dollar even beyond the point of worthlessness.


[RickAckerman] 10:04 am: If it’s any comfort, a confiscation of gold down the road would have to be done in such a way as to make Roosevelt’s “buy-back” look benign.


[RickAckerman] 10:04 am: Since the U.S. is unlikely to peg gold at $500 or more an ounce pursuant to acquiring it, the government would practically have to steal it outright to effect a ban on private holdings. This would seem to make such a course unlikely, although we have learned to never count the government out when there are property rights to be trampled.

[RickAckerman] 10:05 am: Here’s a question from Dennis B concerning my Hidden Pivot method: “I have followed your opinions on Goldseek for over a year now, and I am very impressed with your predictions. My question is, what kind of return can someone expect to make (on average) following your system.”

[RickAckerman] 10:05 am: There are no averages, Dennis, and I assiduously avoid making claims as to profitability because results will vary greatly from one trader/investor to the next. A good rule of thumb is that the more extravagant the claim, the phonier the trading system is.

[RickAckerman] 10:06 am: In fact, one of the biggest charlatans in the business, Optionetics, is on TV at this very moment with an infomercial. Here’s George Fontanils himself, the company’s founder and supposed Harvard Business School grad, telling fibs about how any idiot can get rich trading options.


[RickAckerman] 10:07 am: He is being untruthful, and I should know, having traded options on and off the floor myself for 34 years. Trust me, it is not easy for retail customers to make money at the game, and it is darn near impossible to do so using someone else’s by-the-numbers system.
[RickAckerman] 10:07 am: Concerning the Hidden Pivot method that I teach via a two-day seminar, it is the most accurate and easiest-to-use forecasting tool I could offer you.


[RickAckerman] 10:07 am: I cannot guarantee that you will get rich using it, but I can promise you that once you have taken the course, and practiced what I’ve taught you for 4-5 months, you will be able to “read” a chart, and use it to forecast price action, as well as any top guru who does it for a living.


[RickAckerman] 10:08 am: “Novice” has asked how likely a silver (or gold) melt-up or meltdown is. “I have that concern because, everyday I'm out of the market, I wonder if I should be in so I don't miss the train.”

[RickAckerman] 10:08 am: Answer: All great bull markets have a tendency to leave doubters in the dust, so if you are truly worried about missing the train, why not ensure that you will at least be on board by acquiring a modest stake?


[RickAckerman] 10:08 am: It’s not an all-or-nothing thing, you know, and there are nearly always going to be some mining stocks that are so attractively priced that it will be difficult to get hurt.


[RickAckerman] 10:09 am: Here's one concerning coffee futures...


[RickAckerman] 10:09 am: Other than an occasional cup of joe at Starbuck’s, we don’t much concern ourselves with commerce in the bean. But since a few of you have asked me to look at coffee’s chart, I’ve done so.


[RickAckerman] 10:09 am: My gut feeling is that nothing interesting is likely to happen over the next six months. Looking at an even bigger picture, since early in 2005 the futures have made a series of descending peaks, all of which led to bottoms above the watershed low near 98 cents that was recorded in the early days in 1996.


[RickAckerman] 10:10 am: It may turn out that coffee has been basing for the last four years, but I wouldn’t bet on it. One reason I think it will go lower before it goes higher is that stochastic indicators for the monthly chart have failed to diverge from price when the last two bottoms were being formed (starting in September 2005).

[RickAckerman] 10:10 am: If I am wrong, the futures will tell me by surging above the 142.75 peak made a year ago. But until such time as that occurs I wouldn’t get too excited.

[RickAckerman] 10:10 am: There is currently a modestly bullish impulse leg on the weekly chart, but again, I am not suggesting that you get your hopes up, since it has just been countermanded by a lesser down-leg. This would seem to imply a mixed picture at best for the next 4-6 weeks.


[RickAckerman] 10:10 am: I’ve received a query concerning zinc’s prospects but lack sufficient chart data to give a comprehensive answer. However, the bull market of 2006 looks intact despite a nasty correction from November’s highs.


[RickAckerman] 10:11 am: Most immediately, the breach of a “midpoint” Hidden Pivot near 1.62 would seem to imply further slippage to at least 1.46.


[RickAckerman] 10:11 am: A quick pop above 1.78 (or so) would decisively turn the intermediate-to-long-term trend bullish. These numbers are estimates, however, and I therefore would not rely on them for trading purposes.


[RickAckerman] 10:11 am: As long as we’re talking about zinc, let me mention another niche favorite of metals junkies, palladium. An Australian who follows my daily service avidly writes as follows:

[RickAckerman] 10:11 am: “Obviously, historically it has moved with other precious metals but as shown in the earlier part of this decade it can move quite independently of the other metals with previous highs of over $1000 per ounce and then dropping off to sub $200 level and now at the $340 per ounce price point. Do you see a base forming here, or are you more conservative in regards to the future price of palladium? There have been whispers that certain fund managers are buying palladium in increasing quantities to complement their gold positions for an expected run up in 2007.”

[RickAckerman] 10:12 am: Answer: Palladium’s chart correlates poorly with other PMs and is therefore perhaps best analyzed without regard to the performance of other metals. Bottom line, although the rally from 2002’s lows just beneath $200 looks impressive, several failures last year to take out the June high near $360 suggest the bull lacks guts.

[RickAckerman] 10:12 am: TradeStation’s Palladium charts are poor in quality, so I cannot do much more than hazard a guess, but it looks as though quotes will have to come down to a ‘midpoint’ Hidden Pivot near $290 before they can base for a possible moon shot.

[RickAckerman] 10:13 am: One investor has asked whether a sustained push by Gold above the $1000 level will induce generous dividend yields.


[RickAckerman] 10:13 am: My guess is that they will be somewhat more generous in general, though not extravagant. High dividends are often symptomatic of companies lacking the imagination to find better uses for their surplus capital.


[RickAckerman] 10:13 am: If Gold were to soar above $1000, shouldn’t we expect to see the best companies acquire as much of the stuff as they can, either through acquisition or exploration? That said, there likely will be pressure on big-cap mining companies with heavy institutional sponsorship to pay more-generous dividends.

[RickAckerman] 10:14 am: No Q&A session would be complete without a look at Gold in various time frames, so here we go. From a Hidden Pivot standpoint, the signs are as encouraging as I’ve seen them since late 2005. On the weekly chart, each of the last two rally legs – begun, respectively, in October 2006 and January 2007 – have culminated with a move above at least two prior peaks.


[RickAckerman] 10:14 am: This is encouraging, since it implies the creation of new impulse legs to continually renew the long-term bullish trend. Admittedly, none of the prior peaks is quite as significant as the July ’06 Matterhorn (677.50), but it is still possible for the Comex futures to surpass it, adding to the others it has already passed, to further enhance the bullish case.


[RickAckerman] 10:14 am: That said, it would be a negative if the rally begun in the first week of this year dies without having bettered the 677.50 high. By “dies,” I mean falls, without interruption, to surpass two prior lows of weekly-chart magnitude. Specifically, they lie at 603.10 and 567.00.


[RickAckerman] 10:15 am: I realize that these price points are difficult to visualize, and that’s why I would strongly encourage you to visit my site, particularly the archive, with the generous subscription terms I am offering to all those who joined in this session.


[RickAckerman] 10:15 am: Most of the charts are annotated, and they give a clear picture of my outlook for many tradable issues, including stocks, commodities and indexes.

[RickAckerman] 10:16 am: Concerning Silver, the long-term bullish case is affirmed by the fact that December’s 14.370 peak managed (albeit barely) to surpass what I refer to as a “look-to-the-left” high at 13.890 that was recorded in may 2006.


[RickAckerman] 10:16 am: This high doesn’t look like much on a chart, but it is very significant according to my Hidden Pivot Method. When it was surpassed by 39 cents last month, it turned the entire bull run from the October 2006 low (10.730) into a single, formidable impulse leg.


[RickAckerman] 10:16 am: The rally has corrected since then, but the downtrend that effectively did this did not reach its target. This, too, is a bullish sign.


[RickAckerman] 10:17 am: I am reluctant to offer an entry strategy, since it changes from one day to the next and always takes risk rigidly in account. For instance, my minimum upside projection for the near term is 13.745, with a shot at 13.96 if the March contract goes any higher.


[RickAckerman] 10:17 am: Those two numbers alone yield perhaps half-a-dozen different strategies for either getting long, or short, or both at different times. My entries are frequently made against the trend and in many instances risk no more than a tick or two. Perhaps your style is quite different.


[RickAckerman] 10:17 am: I may get filled less often, but when trading vehicles move to my numbers, as the QQQs did yesterday, the result can be a risk:reward ratio of 1:10 or even better.

[RickAckerman] 10:17 am: By way of a specific daily recommendation, Rick’s Picks subscribers were able to buy the QQQs yesterday at the exact intraday low, 43.33, using an initial stop-loss at 43.29 (!). We never looked back, and this vehicle had traded as high as 44.19 by the end of the day.

[RickAckerman] 10:18 am: Peter, that completes the questions that were submitted to me in advance, so we can proceed with real-time questions now when you are ready...

 


[peterspina] 10:18 am: We will be taking a five minute break and during the second part, Rick will be answering questions from you

  


[peterspina] 10:23 am: Question: Any idea where spot gold may close at NY any idea where spot gold headed tonight? – Sourink


[RickAckerman] 10:24 am: I don't have immediate access to spot, but perhaps I can offer some numbers for the April Comex that you can interpolate...


[RickAckerman] 10:24 am: Give me a sec to do the calculation...


[RickAckerman] 10:25 am: April Gold has come close to my max projection for today, 668.50.


[RickAckerman] 10:25 am: A trade from the long side could have been initiated at 661.90, the "Midpoint" Hidden Pivot associated with the target itself...


[RickAckerman] 10:26 am: Once that number was surpassed, odds of completion to-target became positive.


[RickAckerman] 10:26 am: The target is still viable, although the 1.60 pullback so far from today’s high...

[peterspina] 10:26 am: Question: Hi Rick, What's your outlook for the housing market in 2007?

What's your top number for Gold and HUI? and why the HUI still lag gold? Thanks – Jeff

[RickAckerman] 10:26 am: would have ended any trade with a risk-wise trailing stop.

[RickAckerman] 10:27 am: On my list of Ten Predictions for 2007, the top surprise was...

[RickAckerman] 10:27 am: the collapse of the housing market.

[RickAckerman] 10:28 am: I do not think this market has bottomed, nor is there any good statistical evidence to suggest this is the case...

[RickAckerman] 10:28 am: The only optimistic predictions being made these days about housing are more prayerful than factual.

[RickAckerman] 10:29 am: Concerning the lag of the HUI, it is troublesome that miners in general have lagged bullion on the current move up.

[RickAckerman] 10:30 am: As far as upside targets, I try to avoid pie-in-the-sky numbers. I like to take it one rally leg at a time, and this has helped my subscribers avoid trouble and false signals in the metals.

[peterspina] 10:30 am: Question: Hi Rick, and thanks for doing this! Shortly after starting your website “Rick’s Picks” you compiled a list of gold stock companies (with help from subscribers). I remember you saying you bought PMU for your son’s account and I would like to know if you still own it and would be inclined to continue accumulation? - Dale

[RickAckerman] 10:31 am: Here is an actual, recent Tout for Gold from my newsletter: The 660.90 rally target given here yesterday missed the intraday high by just 30 cents, allowing those of you who heeded the target to sidestep a subsequent plunge that by night had amounted to $11. The weakness looked like it was starting to moderate by around 9 p.m. EST, possible because the so-far low at 650.10 was just a hair from a Hidden Pivot support at 649.50. This number can be bottom-fished at your discretion, but I would suggest an initial stop-loss no wider than 648.90. The trade is best attempted during the night session, since the pivot may prove to be too fragile to withstand a daylight pounding. I should also note that despite the sharp drop from yesterday's peak, the peak itself was sufficient to further strengthen the bullish impulse leg that my recent analysis for April Gold has been based upon. UDPATE: The 649.50 target touted above produced a tradable, $2.50 bounce exactly from my number in the middle of the night. The support was subsequently taken out at 6:30 a.m., but as expected the bulls regained their composure and by early morning had rallied the futures by nearly $7.


[RickAckerman] 10:32 am: I still own Pacific Rim in my kids; accounts. I started paying attention to the stock because it was a favorite of a friend of mine, John Mackenzie, who is very gold-savvy.

[RickAckerman] 10:33 am: It has perked up somewhat in recent months, but the fact that PMU did not surpass the cluster of highs...

[RickAckerman] 10:33 am: recorded in early 2004 on its last surge is disappointing. Not a sign of good health, either, although the trajectory of the rally itself commands respect.

[peterspina] 10:34 am: Question: Where do you see CDE going in the next 3 to 4 months? Is it finally going to move up? – Pearl


[RickAckerman] 10:34 am: If you accumulate PMU...

[RickAckerman] 10:34 am: ...it is possible to limit risk tightly, since the most recent consolidation took place just 20 cents below current levels.

[RickAckerman] 10:35 am: CDE's weekly chart is very much in a bear trend...


[RickAckerman] 10:35 am: ...that points to as low as 2.40...


[RickAckerman] 10:36 am: ]...but there is a midpoint pivot at 4.12 that could contain the downside...


[RickAckerman] 10:36 am: as well as provide a bottom-fishing spot that can be tied to a very tight stop-loss...


[RickAckerman] 10:37 am: It would take a quick pop to 5.85 to undo the bearish look of CDE's long-term chart.

[peterspina] 10:37 am: Question: What’s your take on SSRI (Silver standard). It’s trading at $32+ today. Is it a buy? – Kris

[RickAckerman] 10:38 am: SSRI is a popular issue in the Rick's Picks chat room -- along with AUY, NEM and a few others.


[RickAckerman] 10:38 am: The stock looks terrific on all of its long-term charts...


[RickAckerman] 10:38 am: ...with an upside target of 40.48(!)...


[RickAckerman] 10:39 am: The associative "midpoint" pivot is 34.00, and the stock's recent breach of that resistance bodes well for the implied rally to 40.48...


[RickAckerman] 10:39 am: Concerning where to enter the stock...


[RickAckerman] 10:39 am: according to my Hidden Pivot method, it is possible to enter just about any time, any day...


[RickAckerman] 10:40 am: but the specific details of the entry all depend on how much risk you are willing to take...


[RickAckerman] 10:40 am: If we wanted to get aboard SSRI as soon as possible, I would typically look to do so on the pullback target of a downtrend on, say, the 1- or 50-minute bar chart. Let me have a look at SSRI and see what there is to offer...


[RickAckerman] 10:41 am: I needed to drill down to the 3-min chart to create discernible patterns that could be used for the purpose of entering the stock in the way noted above...

[RickAckerman] 10:42 am: In this case, the spike to 34.41 at 10:06 a.m. created a point 'A' that I can reckon as part of an ABCD pattern...


[RickAckerman] 10:43 am: Point 'B' is today's low, 33.67, and they project to a 'D' target at 33.32. However, when a stock is in a strong uptrend...


[RickAckerman] 10:43 am: it typically does NOT reach its 'D' target...


[RickAckerman] 10:43 am: rather, it turns from the id point of the presumptive CD leg...


[RickAckerman] 10:44 am: in this case, the midpoint pivot on SSRI's 3-min chart for today lay at 33.69...

[RickAckerman] 10:45 am: The actual low -- at exactly 11:09 -- was 33.72. I'd have placed my bid at 33.69 and missed the bottom by 3 cents. That is, I'd have been shut out of the trade...


[RickAckerman] 10:45 am: However, I'd have some useful information nonetheless...


[RickAckerman] 10:46 am: since the fact that the downtrend did not quite reach the midpoint pivot is evidence in itself of a still robust countertrend (i.e., uptrend, which here is actually the dominant trend).

[peterspina] 10:46 am: Question: What is your take on the bird flu, and with it seemingly hitting Asia hard, what does it potentially mean for their stock markets? What does it mean for gold? – Ken

[RickAckerman] 10:47 am: I regularly publish bulletins and updates from my bird-flu correspondent Erich Simon. His view is somewhat extreme relative to mine, but I still think it is dangerous to underestimate the killing power of this disease.

[RickAckerman] 10:49 am: It's hard to imagine how a global pandemic might affect Gold's price, but I strongly doubt it would have a bullish impact. The pandemic would surely usher in a period of devastating deflation, implying that the savings that might otherwise be used to bid up Gold's price would have vanished.

[peterspina] 10:49 am: Question: In all seriousness, I find it astounding that people claim precious metals are in a bubble when literally NOBODY I talk about them with (I have a big mouth so I discuss the PMs with strangers and co-workers a lot) has any idea why anybody would ever want PMs, and don't know how or where to buy some. Do you foresee massive public participation in the PMs before the bull run is over, or should I be looking for more subtle clues to time my eventual exit than people discussing mining shares at cocktail parties? - Kinsei

[RickAckerman] 10:50 am: When PMs are truly in a bubble, you will see the face of a mining company CEO on the cover of Time, Newsweek, Forbes or Fortune. How far are we from THAT? Also, we would expect to see puts and calls on Gold indexes get white hot. Right now, the trading in these options is so thin that they are onlyh to be avoided.

[peterspina] 10:51 am: Question: Rick, what's your take on TRE (Tanzanian Royalty Exploration)?
Thanks a million for your response - Arnold

[RickAckerman] 10:52 am: TRE pops up quite a bit in the Rick's Picks chat room...


[RickAckerman] 10:52 am: as did discussion today of a Chavez-ification of Tanzania...


[RickAckerman] 10:53 am: TRE's daily chart looks horrendous, since it...


[RickAckerman] 10:53 am: is working through the massive, bearish impulse leg that took the stock from 8.34 in July to a low in September of 4.44...


[RickAckerman] 10:54 am: I can project a worst-case low of 3.74 (!)...


[RickAckerman] 10:55 am: ..and the recent breach of the midpoint pivot (5.47) associated with that target is not an encouraging sign.


[peterspina] 10:55 am: As we near the end of the hour, we will have to make this the last question for today. Question: Any predictions for SLW? Thanks.


[RickAckerman] 10:56 am: Silver Wheaton has spent nearly the last year consolidating....


[RickAckerman] 10:56 am: ....but the monthly chart suggest potential that will make the wait have been well worth it...

[RickAckerman] 10:58 am: ...The stock looks good for a run-up to at least 15.94 over the next 12 months...


[RickAckerman] 10:58 am: ...and the fact that it has already trashed the midpoint pivot (11.37) associated with that target implies it eventually will be reached.


[RickAckerman] 10:59 am: Thanks again for joining us today. I look forward to the next session in mid-February.

 

[ChrisMullen] 10:59 am: Thank you all for participating. We regret that we were not able to get to all of your questions. Please join us again in a couple of weeks and we will do our best to get to them then. For those that joined us late today, we will have the full chat posted up on the site soon. Peter and I thank Rick very much for joining us today and look forward to his next visit.


-- Posted Thursday, 1 February 2007 | Digg This Article | Source: GoldSeek.com


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