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Marin Katusa: Winter is Coming—How Investors Can Win in the 'Colder War'


 -- Published: Thursday, 20 November 2014 | Print  | Disqus 

Are you ready for the next Cold War? Casey Research energy strategist Marin Katusa cautions that Russia and China have forged an alliance with the goal of world supremacy through control of the energy market and Vladimir Putin is winning. Katusa recently penned the book “The Colder War,” and in this interview with The Energy Report, he discusses why investors need to pick companies wisely to profit in this turbulent energy landscape.

 

The Energy ReportYour book, "The Colder War," is based on the idea that world domination will come through control of the energy economy, and that Russia is winning the fight. How is Russia using the petrodollar to achieve energy supremacy?

 

Marin Katusa: Under the leadership of President Vladimir Putin, Russia has reestablished itself as the alternative to the American superpower. Putin has aligned himself with nations like China to work in concert against U.S. interests globally. Furthermore, a new bank formed by the BRICS countries—Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa—will attempt to assert itself as an alternative to the International Monetary Fund.

 

The Colder War will be a long battle, just like the first Cold War, but in the Colder War, judgment day of the petrodollar will be the critical battle. One must understand global politics and the Colder War to be a successful investor in the energy sector.

 

TER: What is China's role in this struggle?

 

MK: By the end of 2014, China will become the largest net importer of oil in the world. It signed a natural gas deal worth more than $400 billion, but importantly, the business was transacted in rubles and yuan, as opposed to U.S. dollars. I can assure you that China won't be trading in U.S. dollars moving forward. And it has been making numerous energy deals with nations that oppose the U.S., including Iran. South Africa, Brazil and other likeminded nations are following Russia and China. But it is under Putin's leadership that emerging markets are uniting to fight the interests of the U.S. globally.

 

TER: What is Africa's role?

 

MK: Western companies are shying away from the political instability in northern Africa. At $75/barrel ($75/bbl) for oil, and with current metal prices, it's difficult to develop energy and metal resources in Africa. Northern Africa has great potential, but it's lacking the infrastructure that Europe, Asia and North America have. The Chinese and Russians have significantly more investments in Africa than Western firms. The Chinese plan in 50-year cycles, whereas North American companies need to plan in quarterly cycles for their shareholders. It's a very different mindset. Africa will play a key role in a few decades, but currently isn't a key player globally.

 

TER: What about Latin America?

 

MK: Latin America has great potential for resources, both energy and metal. But at current oil prices, there is much cheaper oil to be had in the Middle East and Russia. Mexico in 2015, when the nation opens up Bid Round 1 to foreign companies, will be very exciting for both shale oil and heavy oil onshore, and for the bigger companies offshore in the Gulf of Mexico. Many savvy energy companies and investors are already eyeing the potential. Energy investors should look at what successful resource titans are doing to gain exposure to the big potential of shale oil in Mexico.

 

TER: Discuss the relationship between China and Russia. How are these countries approaching world domination this time around? Is this actually a partnership?

 

MK: Russia and China don't look at it as world domination—they look at it as advancing their national interests, which they are working together to achieve. That's no different than what America's been doing. The difference between the Colder War and the Cold War is that China and the emerging markets did not play such a significant role the first time around—and the fact that judgment day of the petrodollar will determine who wins the Colder War.

 

In the Colder War, both China and the emerging markets have aligned themselves with Russia, not the U.S. This is evident not just from an energy standpoint, but from a geopolitical standpoint as well. Putin is the face of the opposition to the U.S. globally; the world took notice in 2013, when he stood up to the U.S. on the Syria issue.

 

Time and time again, China has voted with Russia in the United Nations: Syria, Ukraine, Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS). The sanctions that the West has placed on Russia are irrelevant to China and the OPEC nations. In fact, the sanctions are actually bringing China and Russia closer together, and it's going to come back to haunt Europe.

 

TER: Will Canadian or U.S. companies perform better at $75/bbl oil?

 

MK: It depends on what you're looking for, but Canadian companies have much more fiscal discipline. They pay a much better yield than American companies. In general, American companies have higher debt, and they're more tilted for growth than paying out their shareholders. If you're looking for dividends, specific Canadian producers are better. But remember, it's all company-specific, so investors should do their homework, or make sure whoever they are listening to knows the math on all the producers.

 

TER: You have talked about uranium as a political tool. How is that tool being used, and by whom?

 

MK: Unfortunately for the Americans, President Barack Obama has cannibalized the domestic uranium sector with the U.S. Department of Energy's sales of uranium. In addition, as a result of Fukushima, we are currently in an underfeeding market. Investors need to make very specific choices when picking companies in the uranium space. Until the underfeeding changes to overfeeding, the price of uranium will not change. The key is to be exposed to a company positioned to benefit from the maximum upside when the price of uranium changes. If a company has hedged production, the price pop is irrelevant. The sad part is that in-situ recovery rates are very similar to how gas well rates decline. You've got to be very careful about companies you're investing in.

 

I've been researching this market for more than a decade, and we have very few uranium recommendations in our newsletter, but we've had incredible success with the companies we do recommend. Our most recent recommendation made more than 25%. We bought and sold it in less than three weeks. The recommendation before that—six months earlier—made more than 50% in less than 50 days. This is a market where most resources investors are down, on average, more than 20% year-to-date.

 

You don't want to be exposed to companies that do not have infrastructure, that have high debt or that are hedged in the near term.

 

TER: What should investors do to protect themselves during the Colder War?

 

MK: I would start with reading the book, "The Colder War." I'm the only person in the world talking about this, and I have been for years. The Western media is mostly ignorant to the reality of what's going on. It is all fact-based. I can guarantee that the book will change the outlook of most energy investors. Former congressman Dr. Ron Paul, Bill Bonner, Doug CaseyGrant Williams and Ian Telfer all enjoyed the book, and more importantly, the data and analysis absolutely shocked them. They believe it's a must read. If guys like Ron Paul take notice, investors should pay attention to that.

 

TER: What advice do you have for investors are afraid of the resource market right now?

 

MK: Educate yourself. Everyone talks about buying low and selling high, but it's easy to buy when it's high because it feels good. Fortune favors the bold. You make money by being a contrarian in the resource sector, and when things look awful. Take the uranium market right now. It's the most unloved sector in the world, but we've been making consistent, strong profits. It is a perfect example. If you know how to pick right and sit tight, you're going to do very well. Oil is coming to the point where it's becoming unloved, which is exactly when you want to expose yourself to a sector.

 

TER: Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us today, Marin.

 

MK: My pleasure.

 

With a background in mathematics, Marin Katusa left teaching post-secondary mathematics to pursue portfolio management within the resource sector. His hedge fund's five-year track record has beat the peer TSX-V index by over 600%. He is regularly interviewed on national and local television channels in North America, such as the Business News Network (BNN) and many other radio and newspaper outlets for his opinions and insights regarding the resource sector. Katusa is a director of Canada's third largest copper producer, Copper Mountain Mining Corp. (CUM.TO). Katusa is the chief investment strategist for the energy division of Casey Research. A regular part of his due diligence process for Casey Research includes property tours, which has resulted in him visiting hundreds of mining and energy producing and exploration projects all around the world. You can learn more about his book, "The Colder War" here.

 

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