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Harry Dentís Gold Prediction Invalidated


 -- Published: Wednesday, 22 November 2017 | Print  | Disqus 

We were recently asked to comment on Harry Dentís predictions for the gold market and we thought that our reply might benefit other gold investors as well. To be precise, we were asked about Harry Dentís 30-year cycle that supposedly peaked in 2011, and we supposedly could expect gold to peak again somewhere between 2038 and 2040 (you can watch the interview here). The indirect implication is that gold is not likely to soar sooner and that itís likely to decline for a relatively long time.

 

Mr. Dent is referring to gold as a premier commodity and he claims that it moves up and down with the commodity cycle, which, in his opinion, is 30 years.

 

If the above is really the case, then the previous prediction may be well founded. But is it really so?

 

We respectfully disagree for two reasons.

 

The first reason is fundamental. Goldís price reacts more to flows of gold than to mining supply and demand and thus it behaves more like a currency than a commodity. So, from the fundamental point of view, it may not be justified to view gold simply as a commodity (even a premier one).

 

The second reason isÖ Simply checking the facts and the facts confirm our thesis from the above paragraph, invalidating Mr. Dentís claim that gold moves in a 30-year cycle.

 

The price of gold was fixed for most of history, so itís impossible to analyze this cycle directly. No, thatís not our case against the theory. Our case is that we can use the best proxy that we have for the price of gold. The price of gold was fixed, but the prices of gold stocks were not and since the major tops and bottoms in both asset classes correspond to each other, gold miners could be used to check what gold could have done. The gold stocks ratio to the general stock market is even better because by using it we are taking out the part of the mining stocksí price movement that depends on the stock market volatility.

 

Letís check if this is indeed the case with the HUI to S&P 500 ratio (chart courtesy of http://stockcharts.com).

 

http://www.goldseek.com/news/2017/11-22pr/1-hui-spx.png

 

http://www.goldseek.com/news/2017/11-22pr/2-hui-spx.png

 

The above charts show the same ratio over the same time-span and they differ only in terms of scale. Since the link between the HUI to S&P ratio and gold is clearly visible in both linear and logarithmic terms, we can safely assume that our earlier assumption of using gold miners and their ratio as a proxy for gold was correct.

 

Unfortunately, we canít use the HUI Index and its ratio in the case of the very long-term analysis as it wasnít trading just a few decades ago. The gold stock that was trading and that we will use as a proxy for the entire sector (in light of lack of other alternatives) is Homestake Mining.

 

Can we observe a 30-year cycle in Homestake Mining prices and/or its ratio to the general stock market?

 

http://www.goldseek.com/news/2017/11-22pr/3.jpg

 

http://www.goldseek.com/news/2017/11-22pr/4.jpg 

Sources: first chart, second chart

 

The bottoms in the ratio (second chart) are the moments when we can speak of ďartificial topsĒ in gold. The 2011 top and the 1980 top were seen in gold directly and the only (!) addition that the above chart provides us with is the mid-1930s extreme.

 

We can see exactly the same thing on the chart featuring Homestake Mining directly. There was a major, long-term top in mid-1930s and then nothing extreme happened until 1980 with the exception of interim tops in the late 1960s and mid-1970s.

 

About 30 years passed from the 1980 top to 2011, but thatís it as far as the confirmations of the 30-year old cycle go and a cycle with only one occurrence is no cycle. The timespan between the 1980 top and the previous one is about 45 years, which is exactly between 2 supposed topping dates (that should be 30 and 60 years away). In other words, the mid-1930s observation couldnít invalidate the 30-year cycle theory more than it already does.

 

On a side note, since gold topped in early 1980, taking the 30-year cycle and applying it to the letter would make one sell gold in early 2010 Ė more or less when gold was trading around $1,100, right before the biggest rally of the bull market.

 

Summing up, it doesnít seem that gold is just a premier commodity as itís price doesnít seem to follow the 30-year cycle. Consequently, it doesnít seem to be justified to expect gold to form the next big top between 2038 and 2040 Ė it could and is likely to rally much sooner. The above doesnít mean that gold will not decline in the following months, but it does imply that one shouldnít bet on a multi-year long decline in the prices of yellow metal. Therefore, when gold slides sharply, it is likely to serve as an epic buying opportunity Ė not the start of a boring, multi-year consolidation.

 

Thank you.

 

Przemyslaw Radomski, CFA

Founder, Editor-in-chief, Gold & Silver Fund Manager

Sunshine Profits - Tools for Effective Gold & Silver Investments

 

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All essays, research and information found above represent analyses and opinions of Przemyslaw Radomski, CFA and Sunshine Profits' associates only. As such, it may prove wrong and be a subject to change without notice. Opinions and analyses were based on data available to authors of respective essays at the time of writing. Although the information provided above is based on careful research and sources that are believed to be accurate, Przemyslaw Radomski, CFA and his associates do not guarantee the accuracy or thoroughness of the data or information reported. The opinions published above are neither an offer nor a recommendation to purchase or sell any securities. Mr. Radomski is not a Registered Securities Advisor. By reading Przemyslaw Radomski's, CFA reports you fully agree that he will not be held responsible or liable for any decisions you make regarding any information provided in these reports. Investing, trading and speculation in any financial markets may involve high risk of loss. Przemyslaw Radomski, CFA, Sunshine Profits' employees and affiliates as well as members of their families may have a short or long position in any securities, including those mentioned in any of the reports or essays, and may make additional purchases and/or sales of those securities without notice.

 


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